Black Lodges Best/Worst of 08

Steven Vogel from Black Lodges just put together a pretty serious best/worst of 08 feature on his site. The feature is split into two sections and he hit up a lot of really intersting people. Somehow I made my way in there and you can check out what I have to say in the second part.

Check out the feature on Black Lodges here.

18 responses to “Black Lodges Best/Worst of 08”

  1. SPRFLS says:

    Black Lodges is great.

  2. smoovebert says:

    fuck yeah, i was so into nom de guerre this year. their shop on broadway is tight.

  3. Ardelean says:

    Good quote from Fraser Cooke, seeing the positive regarding the economic downturn:

    “Nothing in particular, just want to see quality and thoughtfulness put into stuff be it magazines, clothing, music film. There isn’t much room for fluff now. It’s gonna cut things down to the essence and that’s good.”

  4. Lee says:

    Do you think the fact that you rate Monocle, and are no longer are into Wallpaper, has anything to do with Tyler Brule leaving, and having taken the money from the sale of Wallpaper, going off to do it all over again… better…

    You went to England and London? haha I guess you could say that going to London isn’t the same (in the same way that NY isn’t really the US) but none of that matters as you made it to Brighton an we all know Brighton was ready long before Seventies heard of it…

  5. really says:

    A more likely scenario would be an increase of cheap inferior products consumed at the same rate rather than an emphasis on quality, but it’s a nice dream.

  6. Lee says:

    The dream would see the craftsmen, the artisans, go from strength to strength with quality winning out and the companies involved in mass production take the hit but the cost of quality will keep the majority from accessing it and those turning out the inferior products will reap the rewards.. Until consumers start keeping the money local and start to shy away from poor quality nothing will change and there is no incentive for large companies to change their outlook.
    Still, on the bright side, it’s Christmas soon so I’m off out shopping for presents…

  7. dlang says:

    @ really
    -I would disagree with what you’ve said. People aren’t looking for cheap and mediocre anymore, simply because they can’t afford the large quantities necessary to make a worthwhile return on their investment.
    -Think about it this way:
    -Let’s presume someone really likes to go to the cinema, but because of the recession is strapped for cash. Would he/she-
    1. Watch a movie every week for 2 months, going based on hype and trailers without even reading up on reviews or asking around first just because they could afford it? (Everyone knows (knew) people like this, look how much money crappy summer blockbusters rake in during times of plenty money).
    2. Or would they read reviews and perform research before heading out with their limited amount of cash, expecting a damned good movie in return? They can only afford to watch one movie a month after all.
    -Now apply this scenario to concerts, products, food, fashion, etc. Back in the old days, focus was on workmanship, quality, and durability; we are moving back to this now.

  8. dlang says:

    (this is provided they don’t download it)

  9. really says:

    1. A person truly interested in cinema would already be researching which flicks to go to. This person will substitute something else in his/her budget to still watch the films and get a $2 meal at a nearby chain restaurant.
    2. A person looking for leisure activities is probably going to stay at home and rent the same old shitty movies and get a $2 meal at a nearby chain restaurant.
    Now, if I apply this scenario to all the areas you mention the outcome will be that Wallmart and McDonalds will do quite well, along with all other companies competing based on price. People can’t afford anything other than cheap and mediocre when they don’t have a job.
    And besides, most people think a shitty hollywood flick is a damned good movie.

  10. Red Ted says:

    So now basically what’s going to happen is that the same people who sparked off the trend of constant consumer culture and lux-o class worship, are now all going to look down upon those of us who can’t afford to buy their boutique fashion lines, claiming that we’re promoting an anti-craftsmen/artisan/designer atmosphere by wearing a white Hanes t-shirt from Target.

    Seriously though, speaking as someone who actually makes things by hand on a daily basis…

    Don’t call yourself a craftsman or an artisan unless you’re actually making said objects with your own two hands. If you design an object or an item and then have it produced, you are a designer. You are not a craftsman or an artisan. Making mock-ups on a computer screen is a lot different than actually making it with your own two hands. It’s like playing Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater vs. actually going out and skating…it’s much harder to do a 50/50 down a handrail than it is to make a little man made of pixilated light do the same thing. If we’re going to talk about this new upcoming era of quality and substance being held up over mass produced and commercialized, then that’s a point that needs to be addressed. If all these designers want to start championing themselves as keepers of the flame of good taste and high quality, then start thinking about ways to have local craftspeople make your stuff instead of outsourcing.

    That’s why what “Really” said is kinda true. To TRULY do what a lot of the design-types want to do, the prices for these goods would skyrocket. And if we’re NOT talking about upping the quality of goods by using craftsmen and artisans, then what exactly are we talking about?

  11. really says:

    Very interesting comment and I support what you are saying, but I understand where the design-types are coming from. They live in a marketing driven world in which image is everything. They position themselves with words like quality and thoughtfulness because what they say is who they are. They don’t actually have to create better things for their peers to believe in them, so they don’t really know any better. They use those words only for effect and not for the meaning. They are as much victim, if not more so, as the rest of us. Personally I think it’s the latte machiatos and iphones.

  12. Red Ted says:

    “They use those words only for effect and not for the meaning. ”

    Yeah…I guess that’s what bugs me about all this emphasis on design all the time now. I see where they’re coming from, but I don’t see how a lot of what these designers are promoting and promising is what they say it is.

    And they’re never really held accountable for using those words and then not delivering, really.

  13. Harrison says:

    Hey Lee… Yeah, it was rad to be one of the first people to ever discover Brighton… haha…

    As for Monocle Vs. Wallpaper… I’ve been thinking about this since you left the comment the other day… It really doesn’t have much to do with Tyler Brule, because I was still reading Wallpaper on a semi-regular basis after Brule left… I have really enjoyed reading Monocle more and I fell the content is more accessible than Wallpaper… I guess to me, Wallpaper feels like you just walked into Louis Vuitton… Everything is dope, but way out of my range… Just nice and shiny on the shelf. Whereas Monocle is more like the store, Open Ceremony. While the product is still higher end, it speaks more to me. You can grab a shirt off the rack and not feel like you are going to be tackled by a security guard… I also feel like there are a lot of magazines that are similar to Wallpaper, like Surface… and Monocle is very different from the majority of magazines on the shelf.

    I guess it’s kind of along the lines of everyone’s comments… It was cool to look at Wallpaper and dream about that life, but I’m over that. I’d rather read Monocle and learn about a small company from the Netherlands that is manufacturing their own stuff…

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